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"The reality is that race and other characteristics are related, including criminal behavior... The villains of the peace are the tiny percentage of the black community who prey on both blacks and whites and have made black synonymous with crime." -- Walter Williams, Ideas On Liberty, April 2001.


The Dark Underbelly of Violent Crime

Crime Alert—August 19, 2005: The Ithaca Police Department is investigating a strong-armed robbery that occurred at approximately 11:45 p.m. Thursday, Aug. 18, 2005, in the Collegetown area.… The victim reported that his attackers were three to four males in their late teens or early 20s, and at least one of the attackers was wearing a long white T-shirt.

Crime Alert—August 29, 2005: The Ithaca Police Department is investigating a robbery/assault that occurred in the 300 block of College Avenue on Tuesday, Aug. 23, 2005, at approximately 1:30 a.m. The female student victim was walking with friends when she was assaulted by a group of females. The suspects reportedly punched the victim several times and tore her clothing… The victim reported that the group who assaulted her were several black females and one white female. The victim further described one of her attackers as being a heavy-set black female wearing glasses and having braids in her hair.

Crime Alert—August 30, 2005: The Ithaca Police Department is investigating a strong armed robbery that occurred at approximately 1:30 a.m., Aug. 29, near the intersection of Campus Road and Mary Ann Wood Drive, below West Avenue. The male victim was walking on Campus Road when he was approached by two male subjects. The victim reported that one subject asked him a question, then both physically assaulted him, taking the duffel bag he was carrying. The suspects were last seen running east on Campus Road. The victim described his attackers as being two black males, both approximately 5 feet 9 inches tall and approximately 17 years of age.

Cornell University students were sent the preceding crime alerts as the end of August ushered in a crime wave high above Cayuga’s waters. In a September 6 article in the Daily Sun, Ithaca Police Department Lt. Tim Williams admitted “Typically we don’t see as many [crimes in Collegetown] in such a short period of time.” Williams’ advice to Cornell students was to use “common sense” and “always be cognizant of your surroundings, be aware of the people around you.”

What exactly are “common sense” precautions? What “people” should we be aware are around us? The unspoken answer to these questions (as well as the proverbial 800-pound gorilla in the middle of the room) is this: watch out for gangs of black thugs.

And why was the race of the attackers given for the second and third assaults but not for the first? Did the last two crime alerts not receive their politically correct filtering? If students and citizens are to be protected, they should have all available information describing the attackers—especially what they look like.

The awful truth is that 90 percent of the approximate 1,700,000 interracial violent crimes reported each year involve black perpetrators and white victims. Using data obtained from the FBI and Bureau of Justice Statistics, The New Century Foundation produced a ground-breaking study, The Color of Crime, which revealed the great disparities in crime rates among the various races.

Other interesting findings of the study include:
  1. Blacks are as much more dangerous than whites as men are more dangerous than women
  2. Blacks commit violent crimes at four to eight times the white rate. Hispanics commit violent crimes at approximately three times the white rate, and Asians at one half to three quarters the white rate
  3. There is more black-on-white than black-on-black violent crime
  4. Hispanics are a hate crime victim category but not a perpetrator category. Hispanic offenders are classified as white, which inflates the white offense rate and gives the impression that Hispanics commit no hate crimes.
If all of these numbers are correct, then why don’t we hear more about black-on-white crime from the media? The answer is because it would be deemed politically incorrect and racist to point out a minority’s shortcomings (i.e. a 70% illegitimacy rate, grossly disproportionate assault, murder, rape, and armed robbery rates, etc). Who’s to blame the media though? Such a gross detail of violence would most definitely spark NAACP backlash or Jesse Jackson tongue-lashings.

It is also common-knowledge that, regardless of one’s race, greater precaution is taken when traveling through black neighborhoods than white neighborhoods. In the words of prominent black economist Walter Williams, “I carry two friends with me when I go into New York [city]. And my friends are... Smith & Wesson.” So what is stopping people from realizing this and calling a spade a spade? The answer is nothing except the hesitation to “perpetuate stereotypes” and the possibility of being termed a racist because of it.

In 1998, the horrific murder of a black man who was dragged to death behind a pickup truck shocked the nation. This violence was certainly out of hate and those men responsible were dealt with the most appropriate way: they were sentenced to death. This story was broadcast nationwide and many vigils held for the victim, James Byrd.

But how many national stories and vigils were held for the four whites who were brutally raped and murdered by blacks in Wichita in 2000? Why does nobody know about them? This is equally as bad as Byrd’s death yet it was not made national news. The reason is because the victims were white and the guilty parties were black. Had the prosecution gone national, as Byrd’s murderers’ trial did, then there would have been cries of racism, planting evidence, and white-hate at every street corner, at every news station, and from every Ithacite’s mouth.

It is a fact that blacks are more violent then whites. They also commit more “hate crimes”, despite what is commonly believed. The media propagates this behavior by rejoicing in reports of white-on-black violence and sweeping under the rug the rampant black-on-white violence. Everyone agrees that crime is a pressing issue, yet nobody will take the initiative to stop it.

Until the black community accepts that a problem exists and the media reports crime in an honest way, we will be left walking the streets being told by the authorities that tiny Asian girls and thuggish black males should be treated with equal suspicion. Just remember to be safe and carry your Smith & Wesson.Cornell American

Chris Menzel graduated in 2007 from the College of Arts and Sciences. He can be reached at cpm27@cornell.edu.

 

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Re: The Color of Cornell's Crime - Unmasking the Face of Ithacompton
By: Cornell American enthusiast on 09/19/2005 at 12:37 AM
Wow, this definitely took guts. I can already hear the cries of "racism" from liberals and wimpy conservatives. The racial disparity in crime rates is one of the biggest politically incorrect taboos. Way to go for exposing it. I hope to read more brutal honesty like this in the future.

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Re: The Color of Cornell's Crime - Unmasking the Face of Ithacompton
By: Cornell American enthusiast on 09/22/2005 at 5:36 PM
Wimpy conservatives my ass. The article has nothing to do with liberal or conservative. The article is of racism and bigotry. I am a conservative. I voted for Bush but I don't support racism. Write about poverty not about race. If you eleminate poverty you eleminate crime. Because blacks are disproportionatly poor they are also disproportionatly criminals. This article is garbage and is the reason that conservatives are often viewed in the cynical view that you premote.
Re: The Color of Cornell's Crime - Unmasking the Face of Ithacompton
By: Cornell American enthusiast on 09/25/2005 at 1:48 PM
Violence is a state of mind. People get there by way of environment. Except for the few mentally ill. The break-up of the black family is one of the major causes of disproportionate Black crime. The black people have been used and brainwashed into this state of mind by progressive (communist) attempting to undermine capialism.

The radicals are getting old and more and more black people are turning away from that mentality and voting for alternative philosophical ideas. I truley believe that the blame white history on the present black plight is slowly disappearing and the slave mentality that engulfs the black people will soon release them and us. Then we will finally see that black people are truley equal to whites and all other races.

I remember when i was a kid and noticed that the blacks keep triing to change their name as from negro to black to african american etc. And i thought to myself, "don't they know that it is the man that makes the name not the name making the man?"
I had thoughts of their inferrior logic and realized that could not be true, because my relationships with black people proved me wrong. Why did some blacks seem to hate me for no reason and others (fewer I might add), treated me for what i was on the inside. I came to the conclusion that their was an external force working on the black psyche. (environment)

I was a democrat as a young man, don't know why, but I had the long hair, hated rich people and such. Ronald Reagen got through to me, of course he was the first politician I really listened to, but still, he made sense to me. I didn't vote for him the second time he ran either. But I did start reading about political matters and low and behold!! I found that external force ruining the black family. The party that hijacked the democratic party. Communists!

They had to hide who they were, they kept chaging their name until they morphed as democrats and began their assault on our society. The black people should not be on these sites whining about how we are racist. They should be out there kicking in the doors of the people that continue to keep them down and make them pay the retribution they deserve.

I'm not very bright, but I know that black People in the usa are different then the rest of the blacks on our planet and it has nothing to do with slavery. It has everything to do with the left wing force working against our capitalistic society.

And remember, their politics is their religion, we have a 2 pronged war with Islamists and communists. We need to get both poisons out of our country. As for the white racists, there is few enough of them to fry individually. :)
Re: The Color of Cornell's Crime - Unmasking the Face of Ithacompton
By: Cornell American enthusiast on 10/4/2005 at 4:38 PM
BRUTAL HONESTY? Here's an idea for honesty. If you really agree with this article, and you're praising the man who wrote it, theh why not be HONEST and include your name with the replies. Most of the people who seem to agree with this "honest" article aren't willing to admit who they are.

It is absolutely unbelieveable that a "newspaper" would agree to publish this article. It makes way too many generalizations. What we have here is not a problem of crime because of genetics, but a problem of crime because of class situation. LOWER INCOME classes are more likely to commit crimes. The real race issue in this country is that there are no advancement opportunities for minority youths in low-income inner-city situations.

Another problem with this. ITHACOMPTON? Are you seriously going to agree with someone who is comparing Ithaca's crime with that of South Central Los Angeles? The writer of this article should look at WHY these percentages are skewed, not just the fact that minorities are "more likely" to commit crime than whites. Look beyond the numbers, and try to investigate why they're there.

I guess articles like these are why the Cornell "American" isn't a respected newspaper in the Ithaca Community. It should not be respected anywhere.

--Joseph Ahouse, Lodi, NY
Re: The Color of Cornell's Crime - Unmasking the Face of Ithacompton
By: Cornell American enthusiast on 10/11/2005 at 8:36 AM
Hmmmm..Brutal honesty. Well, here goes. I am not as educated as most one here, but some facts I DO know are this:
I live in Maine, which is 98% white.
Maine has one of the highest poverty levels in the nation.
However, Maine also has one of the lowest violent crime rates in the country.
After I read "most" all of the postings here, I asked my son, who is the math genius in his high school, what this all adds up to. He said violent crimes are NOT related to poverty. Now, if Maine has the most poverty, per capita, AND the lowest crime rates, doesn't it make sense to think that crime is motivated by something else? We also have a local branch of "Job Corp" in the area, which is primarily populated by minorities, and for some odd reason, almost all of the crime that IS commited here is by a Job Corp student. It has gotten bad enough, in some cases, to actually ban these students from certain areas of town. And since this is a State funded system, there is no income to the student, which relates to NO variances of "income" to the students. Which means the white student makes no money, same as the black student. So there can be no comparison to poverty or wealth.

Just a thought from a friend...JD
Re: The Color of Cornell's Crime - Unmasking the Face of Ithacompton
By: Cornell American enthusiast on 11/4/2005 at 1:07 PM
From what I understand from the article, it is not about blacks having more probability to commit crimes, but more of the fact that those in the author's area are more likely to make more of a fuss out of a white on black crime than black on white. A person's ethnic background, color, gender, religion, sexual preference, or wealth does not determine that person's ability of committing a crime. It is in fact the choice the person makes that determines if he or she commits a crime. Responsibility falls on the individual, not his race (if you will) or society.

About slavery, this is something that goes so far back in history that it would be hard to determine who started it. After all you had slavery in all parts of the world at all times in history. And slavery then as was all times the same in treatment. You had some slave masters who were kind and generous to those who served them, and you had some who chose to abuse and treat them worse than animals. To claim it was only in America this happened is to attempt at rewritting world history. The first nation I know of that did away with slavery is the United States of America. I do not attribute the abolishing of slavery to the whites, but to the changes of the world's economy and basic moral structure.

About the Crusades, the poster should research his or her history again on this matter. If I am not mistaken the Crusades was a defensive war that was to protect thousands of Christians from forced conversions or executions from the Sultans. Now I do recognise that Christians of the time probably did the exact same to the Muslems of the area as well.

To the Second Amendment, I believe the intent was not to carry a firearm just to use against those who were black, but to carry one for use against all people who may choose to do a violent crime against you.

For those who call the Conservatives racists, look to your own liberal senator Robert Byrd. He was a member of the Klu Klux Klan and did try to fillibuster civil rights laws.
Re: The Color of Cornell's Crime - Unmasking the Face of Ithacompton
By: Cornell American enthusiast on 09/19/2005 at 1:41 AM
Yeah, keep this up. This was really awesome. Like the article said about crime disparities being the 800 gorilla in the room that no one wants to mention.

Like the previous poster said, be ready to take some heat from liberals and wimpy conseratives. I remember reading some "conservative's" piece in April 2004 about you guys starting a race war.

What a bunch of morons.

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Re: The Color of Cornell's Crime - Unmasking the Face of Ithacompton
By: Cornell American enthusiast on 09/19/2005 at 11:10 AM
unfortunately you draw faulty conclusions from the evidence. you fail to account for structural issues such as poverty, discrimination in employment, health, and other areas, as well as the fact that despite the civil rights movements, morons like you still get to publish this type of material. there is a difference between drawing valid conclusions from research and using your white privilege to attack a whole group of people and attribute characteristics to them without looking at the broader picture. It pains me to think that any university would have individuals with such low IQ present in their hallways (and yes, whitey, i'm talking about you, not the "800 gorilla (sic)".

I believe the acceptance that inequality leads to crime is what is at stake here, not that blacks need to accept that somehow they are prone to commit crimes.

in addition, young whites need to understand they are still not in a colorblind society, whatever the multicultural MTV broadcasts tell them.



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Re: The Color of Cornell's Crime - Unmasking the Face of Ithacompton
By: Cornell American enthusiast on 09/19/2005 at 1:07 PM
Faulty conclusions indeed.
I'd like to point to the letter written by Provost Harris on this matter. http://www.cornellsun.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/09/19/432e055becec5
Re: The Color of Cornell's Crime - Unmasking the Face of Ithacompton
By: Cornell American enthusiast on 09/19/2005 at 3:07 PM
Ah yes, poverty causes crime. Which of course explains why 50 years ago when blacks were poorer and labored under a government-enforced caste system their crime rates were lower than they are today. Makes sense to me.

Look, the point of this article is that nobody reports black-on-white crime because it's politically incorrect. If you want people to be safe, they need to know what the suspect/attacker looks like. That means whether or not he has a mustache, tattoos, or whatever, but it also means skin color. If you want people to be safe and not get attacked, shouldn't they know the profile of an attacker?

For example, the odds of being robbed or murdered by a woman are very low. Therfore, if you see a woman and a man walking down the street in the middle of the night, stay away from the man. Similarly, if you see a black thuggish looking guy and an average joe white guy (or a well-dressed black man for that matter), stay away from the thug.

Anyone who denies the truth of this article should spend a night in the ghetto and learn for themselves what this guy has bravely reported.




Re: The Color of Cornell's Crime - Unmasking the Face of Ithacompton
By: Cornell American enthusiast on 09/21/2005 at 9:59 AM
BRAVO................so eloquently put. This is the kind of "mind" that should be graduating from the likes of Cornell University!
Re: The Color of Cornell's Crime - Unmasking the Face of Ithacompton
By: Cornell American enthusiast on 09/23/2005 at 12:47 PM
There is nothing in the article but stats. There are no lies or misrepresentations, no hyperbole. It is a commentary on the fear (reinforced by your comments) we all face when reporting anylsis of factual data that shows a politically protected group or idea in a bad light.

How is it moronic to observe what is going on around you? Attacking the individual with whom you disagree is intellectually dishonest, especially if it's the only thing you bring to the discussion.

The popular buzz word "Diversity" apparently does not include diversity of thought at Cornell or in this forum.

Mike L
Boston
Re: The Color of Cornell's Crime - Unmasking the Face of Ithacompton
By: Cornell American enthusiast on 09/24/2005 at 9:54 AM
Faulty conclusions? Do you mean NOT including the standard liberal excuses for chronic black failure?? You accuse of faulty conclusions, yet provide no factual proof of yours, as if we are ALL supposed to give a pass to blacks as they continue to rape, rob, and murder our fellow whites. GO TO HELL!

What does the Civil Rights Movement have to do with MY 1st ammendment right to free speech?? You are truly a pathetic individual!
Re: The Color of Cornell's Crime - Unmasking the Face of Ithacompton
By: joe on 09/25/2005 at 7:44 PM
When one of your Negro "friends" sticks a pistol in your face just remember

about Structural Issues
Re: The Color of Cornell's Crime - Unmasking the Face of Ithacompton
By: Cornell American enthusiast on 09/26/2005 at 5:58 PM
"(and yes, whitey, i'm talking about you"---Typical leftist hogwash, you offer facts they cannot refute. The leftist responds with slurs, insults when they do not work they will escalate to threats and violence.
Re: The Color of Cornell's Crime - Unmasking the Face of Ithacompton
By: Cornell American enthusiast on 11/4/2005 at 7:53 AM
"using your white privilege to attack a whole group of people "

Do you understand the word "hypocrite"?
Re: The Color of Cornell's Crime - Unmasking the Face of Ithacompton
By: Cornell American enthusiast on 09/19/2005 at 1:41 PM
maybe you should run a study in your next issue about how students who write for conservative publications are more prone to an incapacity to use deductive reasoning.

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Re: The Color of Cornell's Crime - Unmasking the Face of Ithacompton
By: Cornell American enthusiast on 09/19/2005 at 2:16 PM
...and those who respond are less likely to capitalize.

Re: The Color of Cornell's Crime - Unmasking the Face of Ithacompton
By: Cornell American enthusiast on 09/19/2005 at 2:17 PM
Awesome article - keep up the good fight!

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Re: The Color of Cornell's Crime - Unmasking the Face of Ithacompton
By: Cornell American enthusiast on 09/19/2005 at 6:38 PM
Wow, that Robert Harris guy is still around? Cornell American, you tell these intolerant leftist pricks that if they want a fight, ask them what happened the last time someone tried to reprimand you guys.

Give them a ride.
Re: The Color of Cornell's Crime - Unmasking the Face of Ithacompton
By: Cornell American enthusiast on 09/19/2005 at 8:52 PM
What GOOD FIGHT?!?!? the fight to expose and discuss taboos...the fight for criminal justice and crime prevention..the fight to keep whites up and blacks down...the fight for gun rights...what are u fighting for...the least thing you can do is be specific.

Re: The Color of Cornell's Crime - Unmasking the Face of Ithacompton
By: Cornell American enthusiast on 09/19/2005 at 8:44 PM
people such as yourself...pff...go jump off a roof

Hrafn Þráinsson

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Re: The Color of Cornell's Crime - Unmasking the Face of Ithacompton
By: Cornell American enthusiast on 09/19/2005 at 9:03 PM
The University is trying to censor the American.
I received the following article today from an administrator of (state funded) ILR list serve:
>
> Stop the Silence!
> September 18th -25th
>
>Many students have been upset by the recent articles and images published
>in The Cornell American's September issue. Some students are feeling
>abandoned by the Cornell administration's lack of public denouncement of
>the slanderous articles. It is time for students to mobilize and speak up!
>Silence and apathy PERPETUATE THE IGNORANCE! Take a Stand! Make some
>Noise! And fill out a BIAS REPORT!!! Throughout this week organizations
>throughout the greater Cornell community will be sponsoring programs
>encouraging students to fill out bias reports against The American. Look
>out for fliers, e-mails, and posters, to learn how to be a part of this
>movement against silence! This cause is NON-VIOLENT! We do not support
>vandalism of Cornell property. We must conduct ourselves with respect for
>all people.
>
>~Kassandra Frederique and Shivaun Deena
>" It's not a white thing, black thing, girl thing, or gay thing...it's a
>HUMAN thing!

They present no facts, only their opinions about bias. If your report is ignorant, they should educate, but, here we are.
Might I suggest making friends with, of all people, the ACLU.


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Re: The Color of Cornell's Crime - Unmasking the Face of Ithacompton
By: Cornell American enthusiast on 09/19/2005 at 9:15 PM
Wasn't the American allied with several campus liberal groups, and the Cornell Daily Sun the last time someone tried to condemn/take the money away from The American?

Might be a good idea to add that ACLU after all.
Re: The Color of Cornell's Crime - Unmasking the Face of Ithacompton
By: Cornell American enthusiast on 09/23/2005 at 2:10 PM
Yes, Yes, you must mobilize and fight the truth at all costs!
You must defend your right to remain ignorant.
You must fight for the prevention of free speech!
YOU MUST FIGHT AGAINST THE TRUTH COMRADES!!!


Zieg Heil!! Zeig Heil!!
Re: The Color of Cornell's Crime - Unmasking the Face of Ithacompton
By: Cornell American enthusiast on 09/19/2005 at 9:17 PM
There is nothing racist about this article. It seems to me he merely wanted to give the correct data, as given by the Department of Justice and the FBI about serious crimes.There is no harm in reporting the truth, and this should be either digested or ignored...We can all work together to stop violence in whites and blacks, but if we only understand according to the media that white-on-black hate is bad, then we will not solve any problems. Way to point out the other side, Chris, and hopefully everyone will take this article as I do, as a constructive, informational article, because we all know that there was no malcontent intended.

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Re: The Color of Cornell's Crime - Unmasking the Face of Ithacompton
By: Cornell American enthusiast on 09/21/2005 at 12:34 AM
"Just remember to be safe and carry your Smith & Wesson." How is this helping to stop violence between white and balcks? HOW THE HELL DO YOU STOP VIOLENCE BY ACCUSING PEOPLE OF BEING NOTHING BUT A GROUP OF CRIMINALS?!? I guess I just don't understand your logic. It really is a sad day when someone can call for using a gun as a peaceful gesture. Now ask yourself, if you were black, would you feel safe walking on the same street as someone who just told the public to carry a gun to protect themselves from you? What are you really asking for when you tell people to carry a gun around black people? Would you be upset if a black person wrote an article saying black people should all carry guns to protect themselves from white racists? Now, tell me once more that in this article "there was no malcontent intended."
Re: The Color of Cornell's Crime - Unmasking the Face of Ithacompton
By: Cornell American enthusiast on 09/19/2005 at 9:22 PM
Chris is a friend of mine, and the last thing he is is a racist; he has many black friends, me being one of them. He told me that he wrote the article because he was concerned for friends who were walking alone (girls imparticular), and based on Ithaca police reports, the perpetrators have been black. Therefore give him a break....he is just doing what he feels is good for everybody- black girls, asian girls, and white girls all the same. The data is genuine (FBI), the comments are politically incorrect but def not racist, so everybody just try and help each other.

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Re: The Color of Cornell's Crime - Unmasking the Face of Ithacompton
By: Cornell American enthusiast on 09/19/2005 at 9:27 PM
I agree. These last two posts put it well, especially the last: "the comments are politically incorrect but def not racist..."

And certainly does not constitute "degrading, abusing, harassing or silencing others" that Provost Harris accused you of being.

"so," as the last poster said, "everybody just try and help each other."
Re: The Color of Cornell's Crime - Unmasking the Face of Ithacompton
By: Cornell American enthusiast on 09/21/2005 at 12:17 PM
When are you going to stop repeating the same line of it being FBI DATA. IT IS NOT FBI DATA, THEY ARE STATISTICS CREATED BY THE NEW CENTURY FOUNDATION WHO CAN DISTORT FBI DATA HOWEVER THEY PLEASE. THE GOVERNMENT DID NOT ENDORSE THE STUDY FOR WHICH THE "FACTS" OF THIS ARTICLE WERE DERIVED FROM. And if he cares about CORNELL then why didn't he gather statistics about CORNELL'S CRIME RATE INSTEAD OF A NATIONAL "STUDY" BY THE NEW CENTURY FOUNDATION.
Re: The Color of Cornell's Crime - Unmasking the Face of Ithacompton
By: Cornell American enthusiast on 09/22/2005 at 7:34 PM
yeah, what a great friend.... im not sure how great he is if he's telling his caucasian friends to watch out (and use force, if necessary) for people who look like you...
Re: The Color of Cornell's Crime - Unmasking the Face of Ithacompton
By: Cornell American enthusiast on 10/3/2005 at 10:11 PM
"...he has many black friends..."

Don't they all?
Re: The Color of Cornell's Crime - Unmasking the Face of Ithacompton
By: Cornell American enthusiast on 10/6/2005 at 2:42 PM
Just because he has black friends doesn't mean he isn't racist.

His words in the article mean he is.
Re: The Color of Cornell's Crime - Unmasking the Face of Ithacompton
By: Cornell American enthusiast on 09/19/2005 at 11:14 PM
It might be presumptuous to say that he's racist, but the "argument" that this article is making is regurgitated and asinine. Anyone who thinks this article is insightful is obviously living in a depoliticized box--the same mix of distorted statistics and anecdotes that you'd expect from the Cornell American and those who could be excused for a lack of education. Say what you will of Byrd, but I think we've all heard disproportionately enough of Natalee Halloway in Aruba. And what was the scenario there?

The most deleterious aspect of this article is that it essentially argues that we should be feeling sorry for the poor white girls, hounded by blacks who hang over them like the sword of Damocles. It's this ongoing presumption--perpetuated by articles such as this one--that has fed their data since the Jim Crow South.

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Re: The Color of Cornell's Crime - Unmasking the Face of Ithacompton
By: Cornell American enthusiast on 09/19/2005 at 11:48 PM
How is this article's argument "regurgitated?" What network or newspaper have you seen recently that advertised that "blacks are as more dangerous than whites than men are than women?"

Where else have you heard that blacks commit nearly every "hate crime" in America every year?

On what televesion or radio station did you hear about the Witchita Massacre?

Can't anyone opposed to the American's point of view bring some facts to light that dispute what the American has put forth? Or is there another way of analyzing the facts they have used?
Re: The Color of Cornell's Crime - Unmasking the Face of Ithacompton
By: Cornell American enthusiast on 09/20/2005 at 7:29 AM
regurgitated, depoliticized, disproportionately, deleterious, sword of Damocles...

Funny, dude. Not quite an asinine use of language for an internet comment box, but pretty close.

Re: The Color of Cornell's Crime - Unmasking the Face of Ithacompton
By: Pixi on 09/23/2005 at 7:40 PM
Um, I happen to live in Richmond, which is 70% black. And yes, they do hound white women. I must admit, they don't discriminate. They hound fat white women, skinny white women, pretty white women, and ugly white women.

I used to think that people were exaggerating such things until I moved to this city and experienced it firsthand. It's not some "presumption" being fabricated. It's the way things are.

What's wrong with white women wanting to be able to go out without being hounded by blacks?
Re: The Color of Cornell's Crime - Unmasking the Face of Ithacompton
By: Cornell American enthusiast on 09/27/2005 at 6:51 AM
the statistics aren't faulty. The blacks are being taught that thier violence is justified. They are taught that they are kept down in a racist society and to take whatever they can get because it is owed to them. This mentality has contributed to their violent state of mind.

I live in a prodominately white nieghborhood. My kids bring home friends, some whom are black. About 7 black kids were in my house playing with my kids over a period of time. All but 1 were involved in trying to steal things from my house. from halloween candy to bicycles to cash. When they played out back, they were more aggressive, quicker to anger, cursed like truck drivers, and I caught them in lies when I would approach them with my disapproval.

These kids are being taught this in their homes, on their cds, in the media, by their political leaders etc.

As for the approximate 50 white, oriental, and hispanic kids, only 1 was not good for my kids to be around and he was a white kid who hung with the black kids. Of course i still let in black kids, but i watch them like a hawk.

You left wingers are unbelievable. You spew your poison that is destroying the black family, and have the gaul to point the finger at everyone else.

As long as we keep denying we have a black problem, these misguided black children will continue their violent ways and keep poisoning they rest of our country's children by proxy.
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By: Cornell American enthusiast on 09/19/2005 at 11:22 PM
It is not fair to say he is racist...for although the source may be faulty, he is reporting 'facts' about recent crime. It would be "presumptuous" pal.

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By: Cornell American enthusiast on 09/20/2005 at 8:36 AM
ur logic is way off base.
your reasoning is incorrect.

and your stats make no sense because they do not take the entire population into account.

for example, of course crimes of blacks on whites is higher than whites on blacks. there's more white people to commit crimes against. similarly, there are more white on white crimes than white on blacks.

and you also make no sense when u talk about how the media portrays crimes against blacks more often versus crimes against whites is the most ridiculous statement. instead of pointing out 1 time in 1997, please do a survey study that surveys all national headlines of crimes against blacks and whites and compare those.

if you want to try to prove it to yourself that blacks are more violent that whites try to take more than 1 hour, do some research, and provide some numbers that say so otherwise. let's also try to take other factors into account, such as poverty rates...like let's compare the crime rates of whites and blacks who are both in the bottom 10% of the poverty line.

thanks, and have a nice day!
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By: Cornell American enthusiast on 09/20/2005 at 9:23 AM
This article made sick...I understand everybody has a right to their opinion but this is absurd. Who are you to single out a minority and speak badly about them. And putting all the crime reports you can find invovling african americans, it's ludicrous. Whoever wrote this article is ignorent and clearly has no reguard for minorities. The use of the hate crime examples are asinine and clearly bias. It is shocking to think someone as educated as a Cornell student can have such absurd viewpoint and have the balls to put this out there. Please do us all a favor, try thinking about other people before writing and posting such trash.

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By: Cornell American enthusiast on 09/23/2005 at 11:37 AM
He has a right to speak out as an American citizen based on the 1st Amendment--something the left would like to curtail for right thinking Americans. Get off you ignorance. Best wishes, Louis Calabro President European/American Issues Forum eaifpres@aol.com
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By: Cornell American enthusiast on 11/12/2005 at 10:42 PM
awwwww boo hoo poor baby...keep ignoring it and watch blacks grow more and more and more violent. they will and i guarantee it. thats why race war is inevitable or do you somehow think the white race will tolerate it forever?what other race of people walk around with their stinky assholes exposed to the whole world and call that normal behavior. its genetic.
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By: Cornell American enthusiast on 09/20/2005 at 10:02 AM
Everything about the ignorance of this article has been covered in the previous posts, and I commend the people who made the points and condem the foolish individuals who actually praised this sladerous rag. Crime and Violence are functions of Income, not race, simple enough. The dominant minorities in our great nation, Black and Hispanic, are generally in a lower income bracket than those of whites. And who's fault is that? lets not get into that conversation about our nation disgusting excuse for civil rights reform. Racism is more prevalent than it ever was, its just not legal to act on it anymore.

In response to those who say this is not a racist article, just not politically correct and a well crafted argument...unbelievable. This article is not only racist, its poorly written and researched. I know Chris, and I am not surprised he thinks this, but I am surprised he had the testicular fortitude to voice it in this way and then present his argument so poorly to boot.

Finally, take a look at the facebook profiles of the editors of this piece of s hit. Eric Shive specifically. His major is listed as Africana Studies, he belongs to a group "I shoulda went to a blacker college". He has ZERO respect for anything that is not white, christian and ignorant.

So I urge all of you who read this article to expose these bigots. I am all for free speach, not being censored, what have you, but dont misrepresent your intentions. Chris Menzel, and everyone who approved and contributed to this article, are Racist. And dont let them or their poorly formulated arguments let you think otherwise.

P.S. come to ives hall today for the Ives 215 at 430 to discuss this embarassing display of journalism with people who actually have functioning brains.

Thanks

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By: Cornell American enthusiast on 09/20/2005 at 10:42 AM
Take your whining elsewhere.
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By: Cornell American enthusiast on 09/20/2005 at 2:48 PM
Okay. Two things.
1) You who says that you 'know me' apparently doesn't, sir or ma'am. Though you are correct in that I voiced my personal opinion in my article last week (imagine that), there is nothing in the article that speaks racist. I use one black-on-black allusion based on a Mahammad Ali reference from the early 70's combined with a common proverb, and I make the simple statement that 'blacks are more violent than whites,' which is statistically reasonable. I am personally offended that you think I am racist while I can assure you that I certainly am not.

2) It is pretty ignorant of you to assume that everyone who presented or was related to the publication of these Department of Justice-approved statistics is racist. This is just as reasonable as me calling you a hippie because you like a song by the Grateful Dead --- this is just not a reasonable, or fair, conclusion. Just like I said in the article, there would be 'cries of racism' from people all over campus who do not realize that the point of this article was not to bash blacks by any means and had ZERO racial hatred, but rather to present the facts as not explained adequately by the Ithaca PD and hopefully as a result to protect/save fellow students and citizens (of all colors, races, creeds) from these violent acts in the future. I understand completely though, you'd rather verbally lash out at those who voice a side that seems opponent to your own, when in reality, it is a misunderstood ally of the same war on violence. Quite ironic, but typical. I should've known its solid points would have gone unnoticed. Feel good about yourself though, as you keep putting your head in the sand and looking the other way while 'the liberal way' of not giving full descriptions of suspects gets another half-dozen or more innocent people mugged. Good Day.
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By: Cornell American enthusiast on 09/20/2005 at 3:04 PM
Look, I think we can all agree that blacks commit more than their fair share of violent crimes in this country (yep, i said it). After all, no one who has actually seen the relevant crime statistics could say with a straight face that blacks are just as dangerous as whites are. Whether this disparity is caused by poverty, the poisonous social climate that pervades most ghetto neighborhoods, or instinctively poor judgment is up for debate. But you can't refute the facts.

All Chris did was say that dirty little secret that deep down everybody already knows: BLACKS COMMIT PROPORTIONALLY MORE CRIME THAN WHITES DO. Ohh but wait, you're not aloud to say that. There he is, that damn Jim crow is back again. You can't point out flaws in a minority group. If you do your a racist for sure, right?

Seriously, are black students on this campus really not mature enough to swallow the fact that black americans are responsible for way too many violent crimes in this country. If think that's wrong, fine. Bring some facts to the table. But if you're just going to debate this one by calling anyone who disagrees a racist then please shut up . Alright well, let the game begin...
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By: Cornell American enthusiast on 11/9/2005 at 1:10 PM
"So I urge all of you who read this article to expose these bigots. I am all for free speach, not being censored, what have you, but..."

Just like a damn liberal, isn't it?! Wow...the above comment from the previous post just says it all.

We're all for speaking freely, just not when you a)expose some truth that makes our programs look stupid, or b)disagree with us.
And the name calling fits well with the typical tactics too. Fight on, lefties...keep telling us you're all for "free speech", and don't forget that inevitable "but" in reference to any possible disagreement...yea!
And btw, if you were respectful of other people's views and right to hold them (yes, different than your own!), you wouldn't classify a religion with ignorance. That, my friend, is ignorant.
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By: Cornell American enthusiast on 09/20/2005 at 1:13 PM
well crafted sir, what do you think these comments are for? whining

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By: Cornell American enthusiast on 10/6/2005 at 1:07 AM
The "whining" here doesn't begin to compare to that of some people about how "oppressed" their race is. And shockingly enough, a great number of these people are white.
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By: Cornell American enthusiast on 09/20/2005 at 1:27 PM
I'm not going to address the content of this article because it alone is silly and agenda-driven. However, for your own personal gain, the next time you write such an article it would be best to try to displace yourself from the topic. Editorial or not, this article came off as an angry rant, which immediately undercuts whatever point you are trying to make. It is poorly reasoned and the logic is equally as fallacious. You are doing you and your school a disservice by making the mistake that many journalists make. There is a distinction between a thought-provoking piece, and a specious and undeveloped argument. I would suggest you learn that difference.

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By: Cornell American enthusiast on 09/20/2005 at 2:15 PM
Blacks commit more crime than whites, regardless of income. Poor blacks more than poor whites. middle class blacks more than middle class blacks, and so on.
Re: The Color of Cornell's Crime - Unmasking the Face of Ithacompton
By: Cornell American enthusiast on 09/20/2005 at 2:17 PM
How is the article "poorly researched?" Did the FBI not investigate properly? Are the victims lying about the race of their attackers?
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By: Cornell American enthusiast on 09/20/2005 at 10:17 PM
Chris Menzel handles a topic here in a way which really drags down the reputation of what could be a good paper. The choice made to publish this on behalf of both the author and editor is a sad move. This topic could be handled in other ways. Menzel should review his approach. This is an ugly stain in one's publication history.

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By: Cornell American enthusiast on 09/20/2005 at 10:36 PM
It is no Lee-Jackson issue. That is for certain.
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By: Cornell American enthusiast on 09/20/2005 at 11:08 PM
Regardless of the wisdom of promoting the issue in such a way, the real issue is going to be how the Left reacts to it.

The American did nothing "wrong" and certainly should not be harrassed by administrators like Robert Harris and the others that are destined to follow his lead.

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By: Cornell American enthusiast on 09/24/2005 at 5:07 PM
A sad move because it is politically incorrect?

I could just as easily say you're being anti-semitic because there are many Jews involved in the editing of this paper.

Cease the emotional appeals please.
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By: Cornell American enthusiast on 09/21/2005 at 1:07 AM
I honestly can not believe what students/reporters at Cornell U are writing about. It's only a reported fact, from this one (1) source, that implies (or is intepreted) that blacks are more violent than whites. And the article "The Color of Cornell's Crime - Unmasking the face of Ithacompton" is only one author's (Menzell) take on one limited book.

It's disappointing what you're reporting. Propaganda at least. Racists at most. Insensitive for sure by my subjective observation. But I will not judge. Oh, and let's just break down your source, "The Color of Crime" published by New Century Foundation, which also publishes "American Renaissance," both created by Samuel JARED TAYLOR. The Anti Defamation League and Center for Media and Democracy have both labeled the works of Mr. Taylor, and I quote from the CMD's SourceWatch website "The Foundation promotes pseudoscientific and questionably researched and argued studies to validate the superiority of whites."[1] (http://www.adl.org/learn/ext_us/amren.asp?xpicked=5&item=amren)

So Mr. Menzell, I am not saying anything about your personal choices and stances in life, however, by only citing one main 'questionably intepreted' source, well, I would have liked to see additional sources and sides of your arguement prior to your conclusion. But hey, look at all the great debate you've started. I took an extra hour of my life to conceptualize this response and I am going to use it in class to show students how not to jump to conclusions. So hey, thank you?!?!

To everyone else, since I got wind of the article here in the Windy City, I'll be sure to 'spread' Cornell's and Chris Menzels "wealth" of knowledge and opinions to my other colleagues across the country and in a few other global regions. Let's open up the opinion pool a bit more!

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By: Cornell American enthusiast on 09/21/2005 at 11:20 AM
You are a jerk and moron! Have you ever thought what your racist people have done to cause the inequalities experienced by blacks that leads to poverty and more crime. If you want there to be less black-on-white crime in the US or less crime in general, you of all people need to change your attitudes. Blacks do not attack whites for racist reasons, they attack because they need money and resources that was unfairly taken from them by your people. I know your terrified of blacks, and who wouldn't be with your racist-motivated comments, watch out!
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By: Cornell American enthusiast on 09/21/2005 at 11:24 AM
Just look at some of the infuriated responses posted in response to this article, such as "individuals (like the author) with such low IQ" and "I as a man of sanity pity (the author)". These reponses are indicative of how people tend to demean someone's intellect ambiguously when a good, solid point has been made contrary to their own beliefs. Chris is merely pointing out FACT from a reputable source (the same stats are available from governmental sources). By calling Chris 'racist' and 'dumb' you're falling in to the same trap that you're accusing him of but that he DID NOT fall into- making judgements not based on fact.

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By: Cornell American enthusiast on 09/21/2005 at 12:21 PM
When are you going to stop repeating the same line of it being FBI DATA. IT IS NOT FBI DATA, THEY ARE FROM A STUDY CREATED BY THE NEW CENTURY FOUNDATION WHO CAN DISTORT FBI DATA HOWEVER THEY PLEASE. THE GOVERNMENT DID NOT ENDORSE THE STUDY FOR WHICH THE "FACTS" OF THIS ARTICLE COME FROM.
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By: Cornell American enthusiast on 09/21/2005 at 11:27 AM
No matter how we agree or disagree with it, no matter how much we want to "account for structural issues such as poverty, discrimination in employment, health, and other areas", the bottom line here is that what he says is true and we need to address ways to reduce crime from ALL races. By looking at the stats Chris gives us, it becomes apparent that we as a society are not heralding the enormous one-sidedness of the crimes commited. Maybe if we identify the SOURCE of the crime then we can effectively FIGHT it. It's easy to accuse racism here, but what's new. That's been a tactic of mentally defeated liberals with no logical or statistical counterpoints for a long, long time.

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By: Cornell American enthusiast on 09/23/2005 at 11:15 AM
Can't we all just get along?
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By: Cornell American enthusiast on 09/21/2005 at 12:23 PM
When are you going to stop repeating the same line of it being FBI DATA. IT IS NOT FBI DATA. THEY ARE FROM A STUDY CREATED BY THE NEW CENTURY FOUNDATION WHO CAN DISTORT FBI DATA HOWEVER THEY PLEASE. THE GOVERNMENT DID NOT ENDORSE THE STUDY FOR WHICH THE "FACTS" OF THIS ARTICLE WERE DERIVED FROM. And if he cares about CORNELL then why didn't he gather statistics about CORNELL'S CRIME RATE INSTEAD OF A NATIONAL "STUDY" BY THE NEW CENTURY FOUNDATION.

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By: Cornell American enthusiast on 09/21/2005 at 2:25 PM
Becuase at Cornell, NOBODY commits crime. Even the black crimes are occaisional. The recent black-attacks at Cornell were a way to broach the subject of national crime disparities in a way relevant to Cornell readers.
Re: Cornell American enthusiast on 09/21/2005 at 12:23 PM
By: david golden on 09/4/2006 at 7:40 PM
there are alot of outher sorces that agree
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By: Cornell American enthusiast on 09/21/2005 at 10:24 PM
Regardless of how his article came out, Chris is hot, and thats all that matters really. Also, the way that he actually spoke up says more about him as a man of character and beliefs than most of you commenting on this perfectly-sane and non-racist article.

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By: Cornell American enthusiast on 09/21/2005 at 11:21 PM
this is DISGUSTING
grow up!
and racist? abso frickin lutely! lock yourselves in a whole and pretend you are "spreading the truth" if you like, we will not stand for this. this is revolting.
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By: Cornell American enthusiast on 09/22/2005 at 12:08 AM
something is seriously wrong with you guys. but you know, white people are funny. especially white people with guilt like yourselves. they will do anything, and i mean ANYTHING (and this article is a perfect example of your desperation) to deflect their hateful, white supremacist and racist ways and attitudes. But the truth of the matter is no matter what you do, and how low you stoop, how racist you become, it doesn't change history, and it doesn't change your position in the world, that of an oppressor. all you and others like yourselves have done is go around killing people around the world. don't worry, it follows you around, and it will come back to you. you and others like yourselves have stolen from indigenous peoples around the world in the past as you probably know, and i'm sure you're very proud. in modern day america though, what do you do? your hateful ways have manifested into the cornell american, a poor excuse for a paper. no matter what form you take though, the guilt doesn't go away does it? does it? LOL. guilt, fear, resentment, all manifested into the cornell american. no matter what, your history (meaning you and other racist bigots like yourselves) will follow you around, you are guilty of murder, of rape, thievery, and the list goes on. but you know that don't you? and please don't try to deflect once again by saying you haven't committed any of those crimes, because you have. you see, you are part of the existing power system that controls people's life chances, and you perpetuate white supremacy. and what did white supremacy do? murder...rape...you know? you guys know! its your history. peace out. keep the guilt alive.

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By: Cornell American enthusiast on 09/22/2005 at 1:13 AM
" all you and others like yourselves"?

Now who's the bigot that stereotypes?

Seriously, it seems that racism is now more popular as an excuse for black failures than as a reasonable and scientific explanation for it. If you want to show that blacks fail because of white racism, you need to show me something more than blacks who fail. Specifically, you need to show that America (of the American newspaper) treats otherwise similar blacks differently from whites. In other words, you have to show that people are treated different JUST BECAUSE THEY ARE BLACK.

To be honest, I don't think you can do that.

For example, if whites are so evil, why is it that their racist practices cause blacks to commit more crimes, but not Chinese people? What policy is so racist that it cause black women to have 70 percent of their children out of wedlock, yet the same is not true of Japanese people? What bigoted banks or customers give money to Indian owned stores in black areas, but not to black ones?

And lastly, why--when race is the only difference--do black women earn higher incomes than white women?

What system holds back black men, but not black women--especially since black women are LOWER on the "hierarchy of oppression."
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By: Cornell American enthusiast on 09/23/2005 at 11:06 PM
As someone who reads the responces on the al-jazeera site, your comment is very telling of your race . Take a look people and see how the world is truly racist against whites.They claim there hate is against our government, but they can't hide there hate for whitey!
Re: Cornell American enthusiast on 09/22/2005 at 12:08 AM
By: david golden on 09/4/2006 at 7:45 PM
what whites in thge past have done has nothing to do with today its blacks and other races as well with this atatude that make some peaple turn racist
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By: Cornell American enthusiast on 09/22/2005 at 11:06 AM
Cornell american? This is more like the cornell white american of the 17th and 18th century. But you can only wish and dream of being back in those days in your so called newspaper. You can write these types of articles hoping to make everyone forget who committed murder, rape, and theft against a certain race. You newspaper sounds like an echo of the KKK and it is a shame that such thing is happening at a great institution like Cornell. America has a long way to go, and she sure can't be happy with your likes using her name in vain like this. Get the crime report and you can pull out any kind of statistics to support your agenda, even a racist one. But you will be be dissapointed to find that whites commit even more crime than what you pointed out in your article. I pity you and the likes of you.

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By: Cornell American enthusiast on 09/22/2005 at 2:34 PM
The Cornell American dreams of being in the 17th and 18th Centuries? But then you say that it's an echo of the KKK. For your information, the KKK was founded in the 19TH CENTURY, as was the Confederacy.

And another thing, look up the word "vain."

Everybody's qualified to be here right? Riiiiiiiiiiiight.
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By: Cornell American enthusiast on 09/22/2005 at 2:45 PM
Actually, most statistics of white crime rates are inflated because hispanics are bunched in with whites. The more you know.

Oh and by the way, calling someone racist is not an argument. Do you have any facts to support your case or are you just going to rely on name calling?
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By: Cornell American enthusiast on 09/23/2005 at 1:46 AM
posting in forums is not going to change social policy, and none of you are changing anyone else's mind. Stop being concerned with making a point against someone else. Start trying to change our country for the best. The goal is to make the most people be the most well off. Black people, I think everyone would agree, many people in your community bring about more crime in our nation. I am sure that any black person who reads this is not one of those people. White people, we are too concerned with our own individual benefit, and we do not try to improve the status of our nation as a whole. The answer is: if you are in a minority, try to encourage your peers to improve themselves. if you are in the majority, start sacrificing to improve the quality of life for everyone in our country. Posting on a forum is not going to solve problems, but it is definitely going to increase the hatred between us.

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By: Cornell American enthusiast on 09/23/2005 at 1:09 PM
You are right and wrong.

All of your points are right on except the notion that posting opinion here is a waste of time. All discussion is valid and productive...even if someone calls me a racist or stupid because I'm appaulled at Cornell's blind dedication to flawed ideology.

It will take time, but the collective liberal group-think of academia will be slowly but assuredly losing it's monopoly on the American campus.

Mike L
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By: Cornell American enthusiast on 09/23/2005 at 6:41 AM
The truth hurts.
Leftists are hurt by the truth. It destroys their dogma that "blacks" are a downtrodden minority.
Leftists cannot allow the truth to be told so they harass you.

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By: Cornell American enthusiast on 09/23/2005 at 8:42 AM
I don't think there is some vast conspiracy with the "leftists." You are making us on the right look bad by phrasing your comments in an unproductive way. What they are saying is what they believe. The are arguing things KNOWING that they are wrong. Why don't you try to use rational debate instead of throwing words like "leftists" around and assuming what they do. When you respect someone who disagrees with you it works out better in the end.
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By: Cornell American enthusiast on 10/5/2005 at 11:54 PM
Of course blacks aren't victims. Whites are the true downtrodden minority.

Boo hoo.
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By: Cornell American enthusiast on 09/23/2005 at 11:21 AM
Political Correctness has censored from the public the Zebra Killings--the greatest racially motivated seriall killing in America. We honor the white victims each year on the steps of City Hall, San Francisco. Come if you can.

European/American Issues Forum
CW Kuhn, Secy. , Frank P. Williams, Treasurer
Louis Calabro, President


INVITATION TO THE

NINTH ANNUAL
ZEBRA VICTIMS MEMORIAL SERVICE
THURSDAY, OCTOBER 20, 2005 12:00 NOON
STEPS OF SAN FRANCISCO CITY HALL, PLAZA



October 20th, 2005 is the 32nd Anniversary of the first murder in a series of racially motivated Zebra Killings that occurred in San Francisco during 1973/74. On that night Quita (Pirelli-Minetti) Hague was abducted along with her husband Richard, driven to an isolated railroad track area, molested and almost decapitated with a machete as she begged for her young life. Her husband miraculously survived the machete attack.


For 178 more days there was terror on the streets of San Francisco as a group of black men calling themselves “Death Angels” shot 22 men and women simply because they were “white devils”; 15 died. The State of California confirmed that there were 71 similar murders in the state. Some of the murderers were arrested, convicted and remain in California Prisons to this day,while others remain free on the streets of America. Some believe there were as many as 270 whites murdered: the worst racially motivated serial killings case in America.

The entire community of San Francisco has pretended that this tragic event never happened--that it must be deeply buried from public view along with the innocent victims, never to be mentioned again. It’s a terrible and sad government coverup.

For the past eight years we have respectfully requested that important dignitaries in San Francisco attend this simple Memorial Service in memory of those innocent victims, or send a representative, and in not one case have they attended the services.


DIGNITARIES INVITED


San Francisco Mayor Gavin Newsom; All Members of the San Francisco Board of Supervisors; San Francisco Police Chief; San Francisco Police Commissioners; San Francisco Archbishop; Rabbi Pierce, Synagogue; The Very Rev. Alan Jones, Grace Cathedral, ; Publishes/Editors, San Francisco Chronicle; San Francisco Examiner; SF Weekly; Bay Guardian; Local TV Stations and others. WILL THEY ATTEND?


CONTACT: LOU CALABRO (650) 312-8284





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By: Cornell American enthusiast on 09/23/2005 at 2:31 PM
Poverty has nothing to do with it.
75% of the people below the poverty line are white.
The main stream media keeps feeding the public only what they believe it should have. You see the main stream media believe they have the right to do Social Engineering on the unwashed masses.
Just like a lot of people at Cornell - never tell them the truth - they can't handle it.
It does work, look at all the idiot running around the campus - they wouldn't know the truth if it kicked them in the ass.


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By: Cornell American enthusiast on 09/23/2005 at 5:32 PM
It disgusts me to see white racists still exist in these modern times. We need hate crime laws in the United States that would make articles, such as this one, against the law. It would have been in the United Kingdom, Canada, France and other progressive countries. However, white conservative racism is still dominate this society; just look at the Bush administration. The editors and writers should be expelled for this racist article. But do not fear, their time is coming as whites are becoming a minority in the United States. They will see how it feels to be a minority. There is no place for white racists in America.

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By: Cornell American enthusiast on 09/23/2005 at 6:22 PM

There are millions of well armed White Americans and payback is going to be a *****. If guilt ridden leftists and whining blacks don't like America they can can bugger off to Zimbabwe or Cuba!
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By: Pixi on 09/23/2005 at 7:24 PM
Ah, I see. There's no place in this country for white racists. But, it's ok for all the other races to be racist, is that right? And don't even start with some BS about how only whites can be racist. Here, I'll even give you an example: Statements piece together city rape [www.richmondtimesdispatch.com] The group discussed robbing somebody and then went up to Libby Hill Terrace Park, a popular stargazing spot that sits high in Church Hill, overlooking the James River with a panoramic view of the city. They came upon a couple sitting at a picnic table. "I don't know, man, white people," Travon Garnet said at the time, according to his statement to police. I suppose it's ok that they sodomized that girl solely because she was white? A hate crime is by definition a crime committed against someone due to their race/sexual orientation/etc. These boys raped that girl because she was white. This should have been prosecuted as a hate crime. But of course it wasn't, since, as we all know, only white people commit hate crimes, right?
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By: Cornell American enthusiast on 09/23/2005 at 11:11 PM
I only wish you had lived under stalin , you both seem to think alot alike. I think hate crime laws would also be a great topic.
Re: The Color of Cornell's Crime - Unmasking the Face of Ithacompton
By: Cornell American enthusiast on 09/24/2005 at 11:58 AM
I hear ya! I too wish people would not be allowed to speak their mind - especially on sensitive subjects like this. I mean, after all, ideas have consequences. Keep 'em in the dark - that's my motto!
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By: Cornell American enthusiast on 10/5/2005 at 10:45 PM
I don't agree with them at all, but I do feel they are entitled to their ignorant beliefs. Imagine if they were prohibited from speaking their narrow minds. They'd whine even more about how "persecuted" they are, except they'd actually have a basis for their whining. It's better that they be shown as the clowns they are.
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By: Cornell American enthusiast on 09/23/2005 at 5:35 PM
Menzel...telling it like it is and for that...To the Gulag

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By: Cornell American enthusiast on 10/5/2005 at 10:55 PM
Tee hee. Another liberals-are-all-Stalinists joke.

Good one, Reichsführer.
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By: Cornell American enthusiast on 09/23/2005 at 7:15 PM
I love it. It's about time someone actually had the nerve to say things like they are, without worrying about worshipping the PC cow.

Anyone who is offended by the article is offended for a very simple reason: It's the truth, and the truth hurts.

We are not all the same, and race is not a social construct. These are facts that are not going to change, no matter how much some people would like to believe it.

For all you people crying "That's so racist!", I say to you, get over it. If the article were describing whites as being the violent race, you'd have nothing to say about it.

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By: Cornell American enthusiast on 09/23/2005 at 7:20 PM

"Sacred cows make the best hamburger."

Mark Twain
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By: Cornell American enthusiast on 10/6/2005 at 12:04 AM
"If the article were describing whites instead, I'd stas being the violent race, you'd have nothing to say about it."

I would. If it were whites being slandered instead, I'd still say it was hogwash.
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By: Cornell American enthusiast on 09/24/2005 at 7:41 AM

The Cornell American did an excellent job in reporting the facts. That is what a newspaper should do.

The mainstream media live in fear of reporting black crime, especially black on white crime.

For example, how many of you know about what happened in Wichita in 2000 where two black men, the Carr Brothers, sexually tortured and murdered a group of whites?

This story didn’t make Dateline NBC or 60 Minutes or 20/20. No mainstream media dared to report this story but it is one of the most shocking and compelling accounts of a murder you will ever read and the way one of the victims survived to identify the brothers is a story in itself.

There are many more stories like this one but you will never see them in the mainstream media because they don’t want you to know how much black on white crime, violence, and murder happen each year:

http://www.crimelibrary.com/notorious_murders/classics/carr_brothers/



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By: Cornell American enthusiast on 09/24/2005 at 8:21 AM
(surfed over from a link at Amren.com)
The case of Berkeley, California, one of the most excruciatingly P.C. places in the
country, is instructive. The school system has operated a racial allocation
scheme since 1968, designed to minimize the number of whites in any given classroom. Blacks dominate public employment far in excess of their proportion in city population, much less any relevant qualified labor pool. Everything about Berkeley has been to cater to them for almost 40 years.
All homicides in this time span have been committed by young black males, except for a few by hispanic males. The putrid, left-wing media in the S.F. Bay Area tip-toes around this uncomfortable reality, even when atrocities such as the gang rape of a white U.C. Berkeley employee ON MARTIN LUTHER KING DAY occur. Rapes, murders, assaults, etc are swept under the rug, violent crimes in which the perpetrator is at large are described minus any racial identification of the suspect.
Anywhere the Left takes over, they build an Orwellian mind control state, and then they call everybody else Orwellian!
see: (if you can find them) The Berkeley Archipelago also Tammy by Melanie Bellah. Destructive Generation by Collier and Horowitz has a section on the schools.
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By: Cornell American enthusiast on 10/3/2005 at 10:21 PM
"This story didn’t make Dateline NBC..."

It did, actually. See what others of you had to say here:

http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=7578
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By: Cornell American enthusiast on 10/6/2005 at 11:13 PM
"The mainstream media live in fear of reporting black crime, especially black on white crime."

If this is so, how are you aware of all the numerous black lawbreakers when they're scattered around the country? Do you have contacts in every U.S. police department?
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By: Cornell American enthusiast on 09/24/2005 at 9:12 AM
Poverty does not cause crime. Whites during the Great Depression did not behave like Blacks in Flooded New Orleans. Poor and desperate Whites do not behave as Blacks do. Whites will mutually assist and cooperate more willingly and longer during times of adversity. Blacks will revert to savagery almost at once.

If that illustration does not suffice, perhaps a bit of statistics will make the truth more clear.

In 1995, the resident population of the United States included 218.3 million Whites and 33.1 million Blacks. Of those, 11.2% of the Whites and 29.0% of the Blacks lived below the federal poverty line. There were, therefore, 24.4 million poor Whites and 9.5 million poor Blacks living in the United States, that year. Poor Whites outnumbered poor Blacks by a ratio of 2.57 to one.

If poverty were the leading cause of criminal behavior, as liberals often say, then for each 100 murders committed by Blacks in 1995, about 257 murders would have been committed by Whites. But that's not what happened. About 55% of US murders in 1995 were committed by Blacks, meaning that for each 100 murders committed by Blacks that year, only 82 murders were committed by all non-Black groups combined.

Even if you were to assume that Whites committed all of the murders in the United States that Blacks did not commit, the Whites could only be responsible, at most, for 82 murders for each 100 murders committed by Blacks. We should keep in mind that US resident Whites outnumbered US resident Blacks, in 1995, by a factor of about 6.8.

Since those facts are in conflict with a prediction that can be drawn from the liberal assertion that poverty causes crime, that assertion is therefore wrong. The much blandished "poverty causes crime" hypothesis is a liberal myth.

There are other ways of demonstrating the same thing. The two most rural states in the United States are West Virginia and Mississippi. That is, both states are more-or-less comparable in the socioeconomic sense. But the two states differ demographically, with West Virginia being less than 5% Black, whereas Mississippi is about 36% Black. It comes as no surprise, to someone who has studied race for long, that Mississippi has a far higher rate of violent crime than West Virginia does.

If you think that the comparison is atypical, then feel free to replace West Virginia with any other, mostly rural, state-sized region having fewer than 5% of Blacks in its population. Or feel free to replace Mississippi with any other, mostly rural, state-sized region having more than one-third of Blacks in its population. You'll get the same answer every time.

Race and Crime, US States [www.jabpage.org]

Then, try comparing cities instead of rural areas, and examine that side of the rural-urban spectrum. The same pattern emerges, regardless of the degree of urbanization. Cities with high percentages of resident Blacks have high per capita rates for violent crime. Cities that are nearly all-White have low rates for violent crime. Contrast, for example, Detroit with St. Paul. Or Washington DC with Colorado Springs. Or Atlanta with Anchorage. If it's too much work to check, don't worry: I've already done it for you.

Race and Crime, US Cities [www.jabpage.org]

You may check my work. The data is from the FBI Uniform Crime Reports (Crime in the United States, 1995) and the Census Bureau, with supplemental information from Statistical Abstract of the United States.

Jerry Abbott

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By: Cornell American enthusiast on 09/24/2005 at 10:49 AM
If all you liberals think that blacks are so wonderful, why don't you move into black neighborhoods, send your children into black schools and give away all you money to the poor blackies. Instead, you choose to live in upscale white neighborhoods, go to private white schools. And how many of you liberals ever applied for a job at a black run company?

Your are the bigots and hypocrites of America, and are the only reason we have so many problems in ours society.
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By: Cornell American enthusiast on 09/24/2005 at 10:55 AM
Hey Jerry,

Take a class in stats and then get back to us. Thanks.

-Someone who knows stats
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By: Cornell American enthusiast on 09/24/2005 at 11:00 AM
The internet will allow more and more of these data and facts to come out until anyone with half a brain can understand their significance.
Re: The Color of Cornell's Crime - Unmasking the Face of Ithacompton
By: Cornell American enthusiast on 09/24/2005 at 12:45 PM
Hey Jerry,

why not look at black on black victimization rates vs white on white vicitmization rates? The evidence seems to indicate that while whites would certainly benefit from a reduction in crime, blacks would benefit disporportionately from a reduction in the overall crime rate.
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By: Cornell American enthusiast on 09/24/2005 at 11:54 AM
Hmmm...factual data is "bigotry" and "racism."
Only liberal fanatacism is so twisted in its reasoning.....


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By: Cornell American enthusiast on 09/24/2005 at 12:49 PM

Here are some more "racist" numbers from the Department of Justice to contemplate :


http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/homicide/race.htm



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Re: The Color of Cornell's Crime - Unmasking the Face of Ithacompton
By: Cornell American enthusiast on 09/24/2005 at 1:23 PM
It never ceases to amaze me how folks -- particularly in an academic environment -- bristle at the thought of discussing an issue, albeit taboo, for the furtherance of truth. Isn't that what the "marketplace of ideas" is about? Isn't that one reason why you're in an academic setting? Knee-jerk reactions of "racist" or "bigot" is a red-herring and underscores the shallowness of your response/argument. Liberals are all for "tolerance", unless it's something that challenges their orthodoxy.

How about "diversity" of opinion?


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By: Cornell American enthusiast on 09/24/2005 at 3:01 PM
This is an excerpt from a sppech Bill Cosby delivered a little while back. It takes courage to be this honest.

"They're standing on the corner and they can't speak English. I can't even talk the way these people talk: 'Why you ain't,' 'Where you is...'

And I blamed the kid until I heard the mother talk.

And then I heard the father talk.

Everybody knows it's important to speak English except these knuckleheads.

You can't be a doctor with that kind of crap coming out of your mouth.

People marched and were hit in the face with rocks to get an education, and now we've got these knuckleheads walking around.

The lower economic people are not holding up their end in this deal. These people are not parenting.

They are buying things for kids. $500 sneakers for what? And they won't spend $200 for Hooked on Phonics.

I am talking about these people who cry when their son is standing there in an orange suit.

Where were you when he was 2? Where were you when he was 12? Where were you when he was 18 and how come you didn't know that he had a pistol? And where is the father?

People putting their clothes on backward: Isn't that a sign of something gone wrong?

People with their hats on backward, pants down around the crack, isn't that a sign of something, or are you waiting for Jesus to pull his pants up?

Isn't it a sign of something when she has her dress all the way up, and has all types of piercings going through her body?

What part of Africa did this come from?

We are not Africans. Those people are not Africans; they don't know a thing about Africa.

With names like Shaniqua, Taliqua and Mohammed and all of that crap, and all of them are in jail.

Brown versus the Board of Education is no longer the white person's problem. We have got to take the neighborhood back.

People used to be ashamed... [Today] a woman has eight children with eight different `husbands' -- or men or whatever you call them now.

We have millionaire football players who can't read.

We have million-dollar basketball players who can't write two paragraphs.

We as black folks have to do a better job. Someone working at Wal-Mart with seven kids, you are hurting us. We have to start holding each other to a higher standard.

We cannot blame white people."



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By: Cornell American enthusiast on 10/5/2005 at 5:28 PM
A black man has spoken about the profligacy of black Americans; this shows it's an incontestable fact!

Of course, everybody has long known what those people are like, but every time their true natures are discussed, the liberals and the coloreds moan about "racism" this and "classism" that. Maybe this will finally shut them up. Even better, the negroes might actually start behaving themselves.

He sees the truth. Why can't the rest of the blacks?
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By: Cornell American enthusiast on 10/5/2005 at 5:34 PM
I love how Bill Cosby is always brought up in these debates. I just don't understand, though, why you neglected to mention Thomas Sowell. What about Ward Connerly? Larry Elder? John McWhorter?
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By: Cornell American enthusiast on 11/3/2005 at 8:40 PM
How is the woman working at Wal-Mart hurting anyone? She's working to support her family, which is what people did in the Good Old Days™, no?
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By: Cornell American enthusiast on 09/24/2005 at 4:19 PM
The response by Robert L. Harris Jr. published in the Cornell Daily Sun was a disgrace. On a good day, it appears that Mr. Harris writes at a 5th grade level. He not only failed to construct a coherent argument; it looked as if he badly struggled to complete just two paragraphs. In addition, Mr. Harris did not present any evidence to refute the study done by the New Century Foundation. His best response was a muddled rambling on white criminals and what seemed like a desperate attempt to remind us of the James Byrd incident. The Vice Provost for Diversity and Faculty Development could only respond to hard statisitics with whining and unorganized blabber. But what can we really expect from a university official in his position? Not a highly educated individual who earned his position on merit alone.

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By: slappz on 09/24/2005 at 4:51 PM
It is startling to think that blacks and whites willfully hide the obvious and glaring fact that blacks are many times more violent than whites. As a resident of the Flatbush section of Brooklyn, NY, I can tell you that even though the murder rate and total number of homicides in New York City has dropped sharply over the last 14 years, the daily carnage is still confined almost exclusively to black and hispanic neighborhoods. Spilled drinks in a bar lead to gunfire and death, drug-related shootings in black and hispanic neighborhoods are still daily occurrences, and there seems to be an endless supply of young single black mothers who kill their children, unless their angy and out-of-control boyfriends kill them first.

I look for the stories about white perpetrators engaged in the same behavior, but there aren't very many stories out there. Not in the newspapers, not on TV, not on the internet. Sure, there are white killers.. They kill, they're caught, they're incarcerated and we, as white people, accept that some among us commit terrible acts. But there's no public outcry that the killer was victimized by circumstances that relieve him of the responsibility for his act. We study it, we look at the motivations of the killer and we accept we're better off with killers behind bars. But blacks, in their endless quest to evade responsibility for the consequences of their culture, don't have the maturity for similar self-examination.

However, it takes nothing more than a quick review of every sub-Saharan African nation to know that blacks fail when they control entire countries but, sometimes, here in the US, things go well for those who recognize and truly embrace the structure of white middle class existence.
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By: Cornell American enthusiast on 09/25/2005 at 1:53 PM
"I am a proud beneficiary of affirmative action."
--Provost Robert L. Harris Jr. November 11, 1998
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By: Cornell American enthusiast on 09/24/2005 at 9:12 PM

Yo! Check it out! More racist hate!

http://www.xanga.com/item.aspx?user=darylejenkins&tab=weblogs&uid=313847019



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By: Cornell American enthusiast on 09/25/2005 at 5:08 PM
Wow, the affirmative action negro is a piece of work!
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By: Cornell American enthusiast on 09/25/2005 at 7:13 AM
Why are blacks so sensitive to the truth. The thing is this violent stuff isnt isolated to just America. Look at the news in other countrys and see they are just a violent. When it come to the precious motherland then you can really se the blood shed.

Look at what happened in New Orleans. Such a tradgedy and what did the black community do? Instead of helping thier fellow man they went "ape" and looted and guess what else, took lives and raped people. How barbaric is that? Its genetic my good people and all the years of the "we are the same" propaganda is being torn down by good ole science. We have got to remember, when most of the modern world was exploring the world and making modern day advancements, blacks were still sitting around using rocks and sticks for tools. Thats wasnt whiteys fault.

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By: Cornell American enthusiast on 09/25/2005 at 12:57 PM
Do the violent acts committed by the IRA in the name of freedom in Ireland and abroad make Irish men and women more prone to random terrorist bombings? Do the actions of the holocaust make German White men more predisposed to violence? Does the disporportionate number of white male serial killers make White men far more likely to be criminally insane? Do the atrocities committed against Blacks during slavery make Whites much more likely to torture, murder, and discriminate other races?
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By: Cornell American enthusiast on 09/25/2005 at 12:58 PM
Do the violent acts committed by the IRA in the name of freedom in Ireland and abroad make Irish men and women more prone to random terrorist bombings? Do the actions of the holocaust make German White men more predisposed to violence? Does the disporportionate number of white male serial killers make White men far more likely to be criminally insane? Do the atrocities committed against Blacks during slavery make Whites much more likely to torture, murder, and discriminate other races?
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By: Cornell American enthusiast on 10/5/2005 at 11:27 PM
"Why are blacks so sensitive to the truth."

Not to the truth. To unreasonable generalizations and half-considered conclusions.

"Look at what happened in New Orleans. Such a tradgedy and what did the black community do? Instead of helping thier fellow man they went "ape" and looted and guess what else, took lives and raped people."

You do know that many of these reports have been found to be mere rumor, don't you?

http://www.nola.com/newslogs/tporleans/index.ssf?/mtlogs/nola_tporleans/archives/2005_09_26.html

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9503449/

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2002520986_katmyth26.html

http://michellemalkin.com/archives/003613.htm

http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/special/05/katrina/3340879


Or is that just the leftist media covering up the blacks' crimes once more?

"Its genetic my good people and all the years of the "we are the same" propaganda is being torn down by good ole science."

Science is increasingly finding that race is mainly a social construct. (I won't say wholly.) Where have you been? And even if we aren't all the same genetically, that in no way means that any race is superior to another.

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By: Cornell American enthusiast on 09/25/2005 at 6:17 PM
My son was shot in the side of the head by one black animal( in a group of three)

(My boy is ok) My advice to all whites is to stay clear of blacks.They are dangerous.

Most are not, but there are too many that are.How to tell the difference? You don't

have to. Stay away from all of them. Tell your friends too. We owe them nothing.

So...if you want to be safe steer clear of them.

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By: Cornell American enthusiast on 10/5/2005 at 8:27 PM
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By: Cornell American enthusiast on 10/5/2005 at 8:35 PM
I'm sorry about your son, and glad to hear that he's now okay, but I'd like to know if you think that a black person shot by a white person should view all whites as potential threats and avoid them. I'm guessing that you think blacks shouldn't associate with whites in any case, though.
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By: Cornell American enthusiast on 09/25/2005 at 9:59 PM

Here's a paradox.

Because I know how violent blacks are, I do everything I can to avoid them. Most whites, either knowingly or un-admittedly do the same thing by moving to the suburbs.

Blacks, on the other hand, claim that it is WHITES who are the most violent.

Here's the paradox:

While blacks say whites are dangerous, they still do everything in their power to be around whites; to go to white schools, to move into white neighborhoods, to work at white jobs and institutions.

The fact of the matter is is that even blacks don't want to live with blacks. Blacks use every local, state, and federal law to ensure that they live in "racists" white neighborhoods among people they say are the most dangerous in the world. The sad and pathetic reality is that blacks feel safer living in a white neighborhood than they do in a black neighborhood and they make that statement loud and clear every time they move to a white neighborhood.

Here's the real truth that blacks won't face: They know they can achieve nothing without white people and their only hope is live in the shadow and wake of white achievement.

Blacks are the true White Supremacists.


dag aka sbuffalonative

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By: Cornell American enthusiast on 09/26/2005 at 12:55 AM
Read 'em and weep:

http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/09/25/crime.rate.ap/index.html

Scroll to the bottom, and you'll see this:

"Other highlights of the Justice Department report:

--Blacks, men (except in cases of sexual assaults) and young people were victimized most often."

As a young black male, I'm a little worried. And they say racism is dead...
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By: Cornell American enthusiast on 10/5/2005 at 6:39 PM
"Blacks use every local, state, and federal law to ensure that they live in "racists" white neighborhoods among people they say are the most dangerous in the world. "

Funny, isn't it? The supreme race can't even keep a handful of negroes from invading their pristine neighborhoods. It's not like they're hard to spot. I guess it's those damned bleeding hearts enabling them, but what do they get out of it besides a carpet of chicken bones and drug paraphernalia on the sidewalk and youths blasting rap "music" at four a.m. year-round? Maybe they're misguided, or else the rich ones just aren't concerned since they're sure not the ones who have to live with the savages. Or maybe they're just not full of hate like you.
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By: Cornell American enthusiast on 10/6/2005 at 2:56 PM
Here's another paradox:

Racist whites like you (not all whites) like to blame others--the wetbacks or the dotheads, say--for your stagnant careers and lack of social advancement. You say that you want to live free of non-whites and talk about the paradise that a white-only United States would be.

Well, if every mud were to "return" to his "rightful home" tomorrow, you would soon have to take a good look at yourselves and realize you were responsible for your own failures and inability to live up to the Aryan ideal. This being too much to bear, you'd have to find another scapegoat--the lazy, morally corrupt (white) poor or those damned job-and-women-stealing (European) foreigners, perhaps. Whoever you chose, you'd just be glad for the distraction from the knowledge that you're nothing more than a loser.

Somebody always has to be the nigger.
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By: Cornell American enthusiast on 11/3/2005 at 7:45 PM
"Because I know how violent blacks are, I do everything I can to avoid them."

I'm sure they're devastated.
Re: The Color of Cornell's Crime - Unmasking the Face of Ithacompton
By: Cornell American enthusiast on 12/6/2005 at 6:01 PM
"Blacks are the real white supremacists."
This is one of the most sound and lucid posts I have read on this trhread.
some more reading from a "liberal" with evidence
By: Cornell American enthusiast on 09/26/2005 at 10:37 AM
Being that it seems like the word evidence is being thrown around willy-nilly to deligitimize anything that may point out errors in the article in question, I will only provide a few citations that speak to the fact that racism, discrimination, segregation between blacks and whites, and the purposeful mass-incarceration of black men is alive and present in our society. The latter is addressed in the following piece by Loic Wacquant that examines how the prison industry is an extension of the ghetto segregation that functions to keep blacks "in their place" so that whites can enjoy a respectable life away from the percieved disfunction and violence that has been constructed as, and symbolized by, the black male:

Loic Wacquant. "From Slavery to Mass Incarceration: Rethinking the 'race question' in the US" New Left Review 13; Jan-Feb 2002: 41-60.

The second piece is just a bit about how it is still race, and not class, that affect african americans. this study is from the early 90s, but still has some interesting bits of information for people who are posting here, both progressive and conservative, to chew on:

Norman Fainstein. "Race, Class, and Segregation: Discourses about African Americans" International Journal of Urban and Regional Research 17, fall, 384-403.


These are examples of nuanced examinations of some key components of this debate. what we, as individuals attempting to have a dialogue (quite poorly, i must comment), need to know about as we engage with each other. I mean this in all seriousness. Statistics can